BBC News:伊朗反对美国干涉伊拉克内政

US Secretary of State John Kerry is in the neighboring country of Jordan to discuss the ISIS threat and if there's a way to contain it all. Our Jim S. is traveling with the Secretary. So Jim, what is Kerry saying about the severity of this crisis right now.

美国国务卿约翰·克里现在正在邻国约旦商讨ISIS组织的威胁，共同寻求牵制整个组织的良策。我台吉姆与国务卿一起同行。“那么吉姆，国务卿对于现如今所面临的危机说了些什么?”

Well, he's saying he's extremely concerned. We just learned tonight that as we arrived in Jordan, those ISIS militants are just 70 miles now from the Jordanian border. They expended the land that they control inside Iraq. Now as we met with Secretary Kerry a number of times on this trip, he's been repeating two goals of his diplomacy in the Middle East now. One is to get the message across not just to the Iraqis but to Iraq's neighbors that this is a regional problem; it's not just an Iraqi or a Syrian problem. And the other one is that their focus is on apolitical solution to this, to make this problem go away, released not just military actions by the US and others but it is about getting a unified Iraqi government that represents all of the sections inside Iraq – Sunni, Shiite and Kurd and with great urgency.

“好的，他说他非常重视这次事态的发展。我们今晚到达约旦才知道，那些ISIS武装分子现在只距离约旦边境70英里。他们在伊拉克不断扩大控制区域。在一路中我们多次会见国务卿克里，他现在一直重申他对于中东地区外交的两个目标，一个就是，要传达给伊拉克和伊拉克的邻国们这样一个信息，这次危机是这整个地区的问题，不仅仅是伊拉克和叙利亚的问题。另一个就是，他们想要用政治途径来解决这次危机，不仅仅美国和其他国家会动用军事手段，而且他们准备建立一个代表这个地区所有地方的统一的伊拉克政府，包括处在十分紧急状况中的逊尼派，什叶派，和库德族。”

Here's what Secretary Kerry had to say just in Cairo as he spoke alongside with the Egyptian Foreign Minister earlier today.

下面是国务卿克里在今天早些时候在开罗和埃及外交部部长一起作了讲话。

No country is safe from that kind of spread of terror, and none of us can afford to leave that entity with a safe haven which would become the base for terror against anyone and all, not only in the region but outside of the region as well.

“没有哪个国家可以免受恐怖主义扩散的伤害，更没有哪个人可以全身而退，所谓的安全的避风港将会变成恐怖组织对抗所有人的恐怖主义基地，不仅仅会威胁这个地区，这个地区外的世界也一样。”

What, I think, Secretary Kerry says he is not doing is pushing the Shiite Prime Minister if Iraq Nouri al-Maliki out. There's been a lot of speculations that as he's lost confidence not only with the Iraqi Sunnis and Kurds but also with international leaders, American leaders, that he might be coming to the region to move him along on his away. He has said it's not the focus; that the US has not the business of choosing or selecting Iraqi leaders. That's up to Iraq. But he did make the point that Iraq needs a leader right now who can unify the country and that’s something it hasn't had in the, in the past several years.

国务卿克里说他并没有逼迫伊拉克什叶派总理努里·马利基下台。这里有很多猜测，说他不仅失信于伊拉克逊尼派和库尔德人，而且失信于许多国际领导人，这次美国国务卿来这个地区可能就是要推他下台。国务卿克里声称，这并不是他来这的重点，并说美国不会干预伊拉克领导人的选取和任命事务，这取决于伊拉克。但是克里提出伊拉克现在需要一个可以统一全国的领袖，这个统一在过去这些年一直都没有实现。

At meantime, a neighbor of Iraq, Iran's Supreme Leader coming out today against US intervention in Iraq, saying Iraq can take care of itself. So US military advisors are set to arrive in Iraq very soon if only that paperwork would be delivered on how is all of this going to, I guess, work together.

与此同时，今天伊拉克的邻国伊朗的最高首领出来反对美国干涉伊拉克内政，并表示伊拉克可以处理自己本国的事务。只要上级文件一到达，美国军事顾问会很快到达伊拉克展开行动，局势到底会怎样发展，我猜想，大家会一起合作。

Well, we've been asking about Iran, and it is interesting as we spoke to US officials on this trip. They say they are not sure yet what Iran's intentions are inside Iraq. They said that if Iran’s intentions are shared, that they also want a unified government that represents all the sections not just Shiite of, Iran of course is a Shiite country, you know, it is Secretary Kerry has made this point, other US officials, that if Iran function inside Iraq is purely to help the Shiite, the Shiites battles the Sunnis, then, then the US is not interested; but if they are interested in, along with the US and the other neighbors, of pushing for a more unified representative government, then, you know that's something that they can talk about. One thing that they've also ruled out with Iran is any sort of military coordination on the ground, US forces coordinating with Iranian forces. But they are willing to talk as long as they have a shared goal here.

我们一直在询问伊朗此举的目的，有趣的是路上我们和很多美国官员交流，他们说他们并不确定伊朗对于伊拉克问题上有什么目的，他们说如果伊朗向大家说明它的目的，如果伊朗也想建立一个代表伊朗本国各个地区而不是只代表什叶派的统一政府，当然你知道的，伊朗是一个什叶派国家，国务卿克里和其他美国官员一致表明，如果伊朗对于伊拉克的目的只是单纯想要帮助伊拉克的什叶派对抗逊尼派，那么美国对此并不感兴趣。但是如果伊朗想要和美国和其他邻国一起推动建立代表伊拉克的统一政府，那么我们愿意就此和伊朗进行协商。并且他们已经排除了在地面进行任何形式的军事合作，目前美军正在与伊朗军方进行协调。但是他们声称只要大家有共同的目标，他们愿意进行共同协商。

Mm, all right, Jim S. – thanks so much – traveling with the Secretary.

嗯，好的，吉姆，非常感谢你这次和国务卿一起同行。