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[演讲者及介绍]Dessa

黛莎·拉普,歌手兼作家。黛莎是一位国际巡演的说唱歌手、歌手和作家,她的职业生涯是通过挑战体裁惯例和观众的期望而建立起来的。

[演讲主题]我们可以选择摆脱爱情吗?

[中英文字幕]

翻译者 psjmz mz 校对者Thomas Tam

00:13

Hello, my name is Dessa, and I'm a memberof a hip-hop collective called Doomtree.

大家好,我叫黛莎,是一个名为Doomtree 的嘻哈团体的成员。

00:21

(Laughter)

(笑声)

00:22

And I make my living as a performing,touring rapper and singer. When we perform as a collective, this is what ourshows look like. I'm the one in the boots. There's a lot of jumping. There's alot of sweating. It's loud. It's very high-energy. Sometimes there areunintentional body checks onstage. Sometimes there are completely intentionalbody checks onstage. It's kind of a hybrid between an intramural hockey gameand a concert.

我以巡演表演为生——是一位独立歌手,也是说唱歌手。我们的集体表演就是这样子。表演中有很多地方要跳跃和出汗,是非常高能量的消耗和喧闹。偶尔在舞台上身体会互相阻挡。又有时候会有身体的故意互相碰撞。有点像校内音乐会和曲棍球比赛的混合。

00:51

However, when I perform my own music as asolo artist, I tend to gravitate towards more melancholy sounds. A few yearsago, I gave my mom the rough mixes of a new album, and she said, "Baby,it's beautiful, but why is it always so sad?"

然而当我作为一个独唱的艺术家,更倾向于呈现忧郁的声音。几年前,我给母亲一张混音的新专辑,她说,“宝贝,歌很美,但为什么总是那么忧伤?”

01:06

(Laughter)

(笑声)

01:07

"You always make music to bleed outto." And I thought, "Who are you hanging out with that you know thatphrase?"

“你总是创作渗出悲凉的音乐。”我想,“你是和谁一起学会用到这个词组?”

01:13

(Laughter) But over the course of mycareer, I've written so many sad love songs that I got messages like this fromfans: "Release new music or a book. I need help with my breakup."

(笑声)在我的职业生涯中,写了非常多忧伤的爱情歌曲,以致常常收到这样的信息:“尽快出新音乐或书籍,帮助我分手。”

01:23

(Laughter)

(笑声)

01:27

And after performing and recording andtouring those songs for a long time, I found myself in a position in which myprofessional niche was essentially romantic devastation. What I hadn't beenpublic about, however, was the fact that most of these songs had been writtenabout the same guy. And for two years, we tried to sort ourselves out, and thenfor five and on and off for 10. And I was not only heartbroken, but I was kindof embarrassed that I couldn't rebound from what other people seemed to recoverfrom so regularly. And even though I knew it wasn't doing either of us anygood, I just couldn't figure out how to put the love down.

在演出,录制音像和巡演了很长一段时间之后,我发现自己的专业定位是达到完全摧毁浪漫的地步。然而我并没有公开,这些歌曲大部分都是和同一个人有关的。有两年,我们两人试图梳理我们之间的问题,然后是五年,并断断续续十年了。我不只是心碎,而且有点尴尬,因为我没办法像其他人一样,惯常的恢复过来。我知道这对我俩都没有好处,我只是不知道如何把那爱放下。

02:16

Then, drinking white wine one night, I sawa TED Talk by a woman named Dr. Helen Fisher, and she said that in her work,she'd been able to map the coordinates of love in the human brain. And Ithought, well, if I could find my love in my brain, maybe I could get it out.

有一天,在喝了一夜的酒之后,我看了海伦·费雪博士的TED演讲,她提到她已经能够绘制出人类大脑中恋爱的坐标。于是我想,如果我可以在大脑中找到我的恋情所在,也许可以把它拿出來。

02:32

So I went to Twitter. "Anybody gotaccess to an fMRI lab, like at midnight or something? I'll trade for backstagepasses and whiskey."

所以我上了推特,“无论是午夜或任何时候,谁有进入功能磁共振实验室的许可?我会用后台通行证和威士忌交换。”

02:41

(Laughter)

(笑声)

02:42

And that's Dr. Cheryl Olman, who works atthe University of Minnesota's Center for Magnetic Resonance Research. She tookme up on it. I explained Dr. Fisher's protocol, and we decided to recreate itwith a sample size of one, me.

那是谢丽尔·奥尔曼博士,她在明尼苏达大学的磁共振研究中心工作。她接受了我的邀请。我解释了费雪医生的治疗方案,商议后决定用我,这唯一一个样本做这个试验。

02:57

(Laughter)

(笑声)

02:58

So I got decked out in a pair of forestgreen scrubs, and I was laid on a gurney and wheeled into an fMRI machine. Ifyou're unfamiliar with that technology, essentially, an fMRI machine is a big,tubular magnet that tracks the progress of deoxygenated iron in your blood. Soit's essentially figuring out what parts of your brain are making the biggestmetabolic demand at any given moment. And in that way, it can figure out whichstructures are associated with a task, like tapping your finger, for example,will always light up the same region, or in my case, looking at pictures ofyour ex-boyfriend and then looking at pictures of a dude who just sort ofresembled my ex-boyfriend but for whom I had no strong feelings. He was thecontrol.

我穿了一身森林绿色的衣服,躺在轮床上,然后被推入功能磁共振仪里。如果你对那个技术不太熟悉,功能磁共振仪基本上是一个大型的管状磁铁,可以跟踪血液中缺氧铁的变化。它会弄清楚你大脑的哪一部分,在给定时刻有最大的新陈代谢需求。由此计算出大脑哪个部分跟某一身体活动相关联,比如重复轻敲你的手指,总能点亮同一的区域,或者在我的例子中,望着我前男友的照片一段时间,然后看一张有点像我前男友的照片,但我对这人没有强烈的感情;这是对照实验。

03:42

(Laughter)

(笑声)

03:44

And when I left the machine, we had thesereally high-resolution images of my brain. We could cleave the two halvesapart. We could inflate the cortex to see inside all of the wrinkles,essentially, in a view that Dr. Cheryl Olman called the "brain skinrug."

当我离开仪器,他们得到了我大脑非常高解析度的图像。他们可以将我的大脑成像分成两半,可以使皮质膨胀,看到所有皱纹,这就是谢丽尔·奥尔曼博士所说的“大脑外皮地毯”。

04:03

(Laughter)

(笑声)

04:05

And we could see how my brain had behavedwhen I looked at images of both men. And this was important. We could track allof the activity when I looked at the control and when I looked at my ex, and itwas in comparing these data sets that we'd be able to find the love alone, inthe same way that, if I were to step on a scale fully dressed and then step onit again naked, the difference between those numbers would be the weight of myclothing. So when we did that data comparison, we subtracted one from the other,we found activity in exactly the regions that Dr. Fisher would have predicted.

当我分别看这两个男人的照片时,我的大脑有不同反应。这点很重要。这样可以追踪我的所有脑部活动,包括我看到前男友及对照男士的情况,然后通过对比这两种情况的数据集,就能够寻找我的所爱是谁;跟我穿着衣服站在体重秤上,然后裸体站在秤上的道理类似,这些数据的差异就是我衣服的重量。所以当做了那些数据比较之后,我们找到了有用的结果,实验发现活跃的领域正好就在费雪医生预测的地方。

04:42

After she had had time to analyze the datawith her team and a couple of partners, Andrea and Phil, Cheryl sent me animage, a single slide. It was my brain in cross section, with one bright dot ofactivity that represented my feelings for this dude.

那是我。那是我恋爱的大脑。那个小橘点是在中脑的活动,位于腹侧被盖区,那红色的环是前扣带,那对金色的角就是尾状核。她与团队成员,包括安德里亚和菲尔,花了些时间分析了数据之后,谢丽尔给我发来一张图片。是我大脑的横截面,这个亮点代表脑部活动,是我对这家伙的感情。

05:19

And I'd known I was in love, and that's thewhole reason I was going to these outrageous lengths. But having an image thatproved it felt like such a vindication, like, "Yeah, it's all in my head,but now I know exactly where."

我知道我在恋爱中,这就是我很漫长的反常现象。我感觉这张照片是一种确认,就像,“一切都在我的脑海里,现在找到正确的位置了。”

05:32

(Laughter)

(笑声)

05:36

And I also felt like an assassin who hadher mark. That was what I had to annihilate.

我也觉得自己像个刺客,身上带着标记;那是我必须除去的。

05:43

So I decided to embark on a course oftreatment called "neurofeedback." I worked with a woman namedPenijean Gracefire, and she explained that what we'd be doing was training mybrain. We're not lobotomizing anything. We're training it in the way that wewould train a muscle, so that it would be flexible enough and resilient enoughto respond appropriately to my circumstances. So when we're on the treadmill,we would anticipate that our heart would beat and pound, and when we're asleep,we would ask that that muscle slow. Similarly, when I'm in a long-term, viable,loving romantic relationship, the emotional centers of my brain should engage,and when I'm not in a long-term, viable, emotional, loving relationship, theyshould eventually chill out.

所以我决定参加一项治疗课程,称为“神经反馈”。我和佩尼琴·格雷斯菲尔女士合作,她解释道只需要做那些用来训练我大脑的事情,无需进行脑叶切开术;用类似训练肌肉的方法来训练我的大脑,让它有足够的灵活性和弹性,来应对我的处境,做出适当的反应。当我们在跑步机上会预期心脏砰砰跳动,而当我们睡觉时,会让心跳慢下来。同样,当我处于一段长期、可维持、充满爱的浪漫关系中,我大脑的情感中心会参与其中,而当我不处于一段长期、可维持、激情的恋爱关系中时,大脑的情感中心最终会冷静下来。

06:33

So she came over with a set of electrodesjust smaller than a dime that were sensitive enough to detect my brainwavesthrough my bone and hair and scalp. And when she rigged me up, I could see mybrain working in real time. And in another view that she showed me, I could seeexactly which parts of my brain were hyperactive, here displayed in red;hypoactive, here displayed in blue; and the healthy threshold of behavior, thegreen zone, the Goldilocks zone, which is where I wanted to go. And we can, infact, isolate just those parts of my brain that were associated with theromantic regulation that we'd identified in the Fisher study. So Penijean, severaltimes, hooked me up with all her electrodes, and she explained that I didn'thave to do or think anything. I just essentially had to hold pretty still andstay awake and watch.

佩尼琴带来了一套比一角硬币还小的电极,敏感度足以穿透头骨,头发和头皮、侦测我的脑电波。当我佩戴上了电极,就可以实时检测我的大脑活动。同时她给我看的另一幅图,可以清楚看到我大脑哪些部分极度活跃,就是红色的部分;不活跃的,用蓝色來表示;以及健康的行为门槛,就是绿色和金色的区域,那活跃区要改变的颜色。事实上,在我大脑中可以识别出在费雪研究中发现与浪漫规则相关的部分。有几次,佩尼琴给我接上了所有的电极,她指示我什么都不用做,不用想。我只要保持安静,保持清醒,只是观察着。

07:34

(Harp and vibraphone sounds play)

(竖琴和电颤音琴声音播放)

07:38

So I did. And every time my brain operatedin that healthy threshold, I got a little run of harp or vibraphone music. AndI just watched my brain rotate at roughly the speed of a gyro machine on mydad's flat-screen TV. And that was counterintuitive. She said the learningwould be essentially unconscious. But then I thought about the other things Ihad learned without actively engaging my conscious mind. When you ride a bike,I don't really know what, like, my left calf muscle is doing, or how mylatissimus dorsi knows to engage when I wobble to the right. The body justlearns. And similarly, Pavlov's dogs probably don't know a lot about, like,protein structures or the waveform of a ringing bell, but they salivatenonetheless because the body paired the stimuli. Finished the sessions, wentback to Dr. Cheryl Olman's fMRI machine, and we repeated the protocol, the sameimages -- of the ex, of the control and, in the interest of scientific rigor,Cheryl and her team didn't know who was who, so that they couldn't influencethe results.

我这样做了。每次我的大脑在那个健康的阈值中运行,都是听到一些竖琴或电颤琴音乐。我总是从父亲的平板电视上看到大脑在以陀螺的速度旋转。那是违反直觉的。她说这种学习基本上是无意识的。但后来我又想到,我在没有意识的情况下学到的其他东西。当你骑自行车时,我并不确切知道我的左小腿肌肉在做什么,或者我的背阔肌在我向右摇晃时会如何配合。身体自然就学会了。同样,巴甫洛夫的狗可能不太了解蛋白质结构或铃声的波形,但它们还是会分泌唾液,因为那身体与刺激的配对。我完成了课程,回到谢丽尔·欧曼博士的功能磁共振仪器,继续之前的医疗实验计划,同样的照片——一张前男友,一张对照组的,为了科学的严密性,谢丽尔和她的团队不知道照片上分别是谁,所以他们不能影响结果。

08:47

And after she had time to analyze thatsecond set of data, she sent me that image. She said, "Dude A's dominanceof your brain seems to essentially have been eradicated. I think this is thedesired result," comma, yes, question mark.

在她花时间分析了第二次数据后,她送来了那张图像。她说,“主导你大脑的那个家伙基本上被根除了。是我们期望的结果。”事件告一阶段了,但为什么?

09:05

(Laughter)

(笑声)

09:08

And that was the exactly the desiredresult. And finally, I allowed myself a moment to introspect, like, how did Ifeel? And in one way, it felt like it was the same inventory of feelings thatI'd had at the outset. This isn't "Eternal Sunshine of the SpotlessMind." The dude wasn't a stranger. But I'd had love and jealousy and amityand attraction and respect and all those complicated feelings that you amassafter long-term love. But it felt like the benevolent feelings had risen to thesurface, and the feelings of fixation and the less-generous feelings weren'tquite so present. And that sounds like a small thing in some way, thisresequencing of feelings, but to me it felt like the biggest thing. Like, if Itold you, "I'm going to anesthetize you, and I'm also going to take outyour wisdom teeth," it would really matter to you the sequence in which Idid those two things.

那确实是我们预期的结果。最后,我让自己反省,比如,我当时是什么感觉?在某种程度上,这感觉和我一开始的感觉是一样的。这不是《美丽心灵的永恒阳光》。那家伙不是陌生人。但是,他曾经激起过我的爱、嫉妒、亲密、爱慕和尊重,以及在长期的恋爱之后所积累的所有那些复杂的情感。然而就像仁慈的心已经浮出水面,那固执不愿意慷慨付出的感情已经没有那么明显了。听起来似乎没什么大不了,但这种情感的重新排序,对我而言,是天大的事情。就好像我告诉你,“我要麻醉你,并打算拔掉你的智齿,”我做这两件事情的顺序对你很重要。

10:11

(Laughter)

(笑声)

10:15

And I also felt like I'd had this reallyunusual philosophical privilege to understand love. even the compulsive parts.It isn't a neat, symmetrical Valentine's heart. It's bodily, it's systemic, itis a hideous pair of ram's horns buried somewhere deep within your skull, andwhen that special boy walks by, it lights up, and if he likes you back and youmake each other happy, then you fan the flames. And if he doesn't, then youassemble a team of neuroscientists to snuff them out by force.

我感觉我借着这个机会更好的理解了爱情,即便是必须要经过苦恋的部分。它不是一颗条理有序的情人节的心。它是有身体的、系统的、仿佛一对丑恶的公羊角,埋在你的头骨深处,当那个特别的男孩经过时,它就会亮起来,如果他也喜欢你,你们会让彼此快乐,那么你煽起火焰。如果他不喜欢你,就去召集一组神经科学家,用武力将它们消灭。

11:34

(Laughter)

(笑声)

11:36

Thanks.

谢谢。

11:37

(Applause)

(鼓掌)

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