演讲MP3+双语文稿:我们应该如何应对悲伤情绪
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【演讲者及介绍】Nora McInerny
作者，播客主持人。诺拉·麦克伦尼以和人们谈论生活中最艰难的时刻为生。
【演讲主题】我们不逃避悲伤，我们与它一起前进
【中英文字幕】
翻译者 Boom boom Jigajiga 校对者 Anney Ye
00:13
So, 2014 was a big year for me. Do you everhave that, just like a big year, like a banner year? For me, it went like this:October 3, I lost my second pregnancy. And then October 8, my dad died ofcancer. And then on November 25, my husband Aaron died after three years withstage-four glioblastoma, which is just a fancy word for brain cancer.
2014年对我来说，是意义重大的一年。你以前有没有经历一个对你来说意义重大，而且特别高产的一年？对我来说，在这样的一年里，我是这样过的： 10月3日的时候，我经历了二胎流产 然后10月8日的时候，我的父亲死于癌症，再到11月25日，我的丈夫艾伦也过世了。在他患上第四期的神经胶质母细胞瘤的三年后。说白了就是脑癌。
00:37
So, I'm fun.
所以我是个有趣的人。
00:39
(Laughter)
（笑声）
00:40
People love to invite me out all the time.Packed social life. Usually, when I talk about this period of my life, thereaction I get is essentially:
大多数时候大家都很喜欢约我出去，我的社交生活非常充实。通常当我谈起我人生的这一阶段时，我得到的反应基本上都是这样的：
00:52
(Sighs)
（叹气）
00:54
"I can't -- I can't imagine." ButI do think you can. I think you can. And I think that you should because,someday, it's going to happen to you. Maybe not these specific losses in thisspecific order or at this speed, but like I said, I'm very fun and the researchthat I have seen will stun you: everyone you love has a 100 percent chance ofdying.
“我……我无法想象你的感受。”但我觉得在座的你们可以。我真的认为你们可以想象到。而且我认为你们必须学会这样做，因为有一天，这种事情也会发生在你们身上。或许你们遇到的事情不会和我完全一样，可能发生在不同的顺序或时机，不过就像我说的，我是个有趣的人而我了解到的研究结果肯定会吓你一跳：你所爱的人最后都有100%的几率会死去。
01:19
(Laughter)
（笑声）
01:21
And that's why you came to TED.
这也是为什么你今天会来到这里。
01:23
(Laughter)
（笑声）
01:25
(Applause)
（鼓掌）
01:29
So, since all of this loss happened, I'vemade it a career to talk about death and loss, not just my own, because it'spretty easy to recap, but the losses and tragedies that other people haveexperienced. It's a niche, I have to say.
自从我经历了这些丧亲之痛后，我就把和大家谈论生死变成了我的职业，不仅仅是说出我的故事，因为这很容易引起共鸣——还有其他人经历的丧亲和悲剧。我不得不说，我现在从事的这个职业是个非常好的商机。
01:43
(Laughter)
（笑声）
01:45
It's a small niche, and I wish I made moremoney, but ...
虽然商机很小，而我希望我赚的钱 （比这）更多，不过嘛……
01:48
(Laughter)
（笑声）
01:50
I've written some very uplifting books,host a very uplifting podcast, I started a little nonprofit. I'm just trying todo what I can to make more people comfortable with the uncomfortable, and griefis so uncomfortable. It's so uncomfortable, especially if it's someone else's grief.So part of that work is this group that I started with my friend Moe, who isalso a widow; we call it the Hot Young Widows Club.
我写了几本鼓舞人心的书本，主持了一个鼓舞人心的播客，也开始了一些非盈利活动。而我只是在竭尽我所能让更多感到难受的人变得好受一点，毕竟那些伤心和痛苦太令人难受了。尤其是当其他人对我们倾诉悲痛时，这种感觉更甚。所以我工作中有一项是，我和我的朋友摩尔一起创立了一个社团，她和我一样是一个寡妇，我们为那个社团取名为‘性感年轻寡妇俱乐部’。
02:18
(Laughter)
（笑声）
02:19
And it's real, we have membership cards andT-shirts. And when your person dies, your husband, wife, girlfriend, boyfriend,literally don't care if you were married, your friends and your family are justgoing to look around through friends of friends of friends of friends untilthey find someone who's gone through something similar, and then they'll pushyou towards each other so you can talk amongst yourselves and not get your sadon other people.
是真的！我们甚至有自己的会员卡和专属的T恤。当你身边的人过世后，无论死去的人是你的丈夫、妻子，抑或是男朋友、女朋友，不管你有没有结婚过，你的家人朋友总是会下意识地通过他们的朋友的朋友的朋友帮你寻找（伴侣），直到找到一个与你有相似经历的人，然后他们就会把你推向对方让你们可以互相分担痛苦，同时也避免把难过散播到身边其他人身上。
02:44
(Laughter)
（笑声）
02:46
So that's what we do. It's just a series ofsmall groups, where men, women, gay, straight, married, partnered, can talkabout their dead person, and say the things that the other people in theirlives aren't ready or willing to hear yet. Huge range of conversations. Like,"My husband died two weeks ago, I can't stop thinking about sex, is thatnormal?"
这些也是我们俱乐部正在做的事情。我们只是把人们聚集成一个个小组，让不论是男人，女人，同性恋，异性恋，已婚人士或者是有伴侣的人，都可以谈谈他们身边已经过世的亲人，也可以大方地说出一些，现在他们周围的人们都还没做好准备去聆听的事情。他们聊天的话题可以很广泛。就像：“我的丈夫两个星期前过世了，但一直在我脑海挥之不去的问题是以后的性生活怎么办，这正常吗？”
03:11
Yeah.
当然正常啊。
03:12
"What if it's one of the PropertyBrothers?"
“但如果我性幻想对象是‘房产兄弟’的其中一个人呢？那也正常吗？”
03:14
Less normal, but I'll accept it.
有一点偏离常规，但我可以接受。
03:16
(Laughter)
（笑声）
03:19
Things like, "Look, when I'm out inpublic and I see old people holding hands, couples who have clearly beentogether for decades, and then I look at them and I imagine all of the thingsthey've been through together, the good things, the bad things, the argumentsthey've had over who should take out the trash ... I just find my heart filledwith rage."
又比如：“每当我出门一看到其他老夫老妻在街上手牵手，”很显然他们已经互相陪伴了几十年当我看着他们，我竟然能想象到他们在一起那么多年共同经历过的所有事情，无论是好的事情还是坏的事，抑或是他们之间曾为了谁应该去丢垃圾而引发的小争执... 一想到这些，我的内心只有满满的愤怒。
03:38
(Laughter)
（笑声）
03:39
And that example is personal to me.
而上面的例子正是我能够感同身受的。
03:42
Most of the conversations that we have inthe group can and will just stay amongst ourselves, but there are things thatwe talk about that the rest of the world -- the world that is grief-adjacentbut not yet grief-stricken -- could really benefit from hearing. And if youcan't tell, I'm only interested in / capable of unscientific studies, so what Idid was go to The Hot Young Widows Club and say, "Hello, friends, rememberwhen your person died?" They did.
我们在小组里面大部分的聊天内容都只有我们自己人知道，不过我们谈论的事情有很多那就是世界上大部分的人的悲痛都是邻近的，但人们又不至于被极度悲伤我们真的可以从听这些人的谈论中受益良多。况且，如果你不知道，我只对一些非科学的课题感兴趣/擅长，所以我去到了‘性感年轻寡妇俱乐部’问里面的成员： “朋友们，你们记得自己身边最亲的人 什么时候过世吗？”他们记得。
04:09
"Do you remember all the things peoplesaid to you?"
我又问：“那你们记得清他们对你说过的话吗？”
04:11
"Oh, yeah."
“当然。”
04:13
"Which ones did you hate themost?"
“那他们说的哪一句话是你们最讨厌的呢？”
04:14
I got a lot of comments, lot of answers,people say a lot of things, but two rose to the top pretty quickly."Moving on."
我的问题得到了很多的回答，所有人都发表了自己的看法，不过许多人都有提到这个答案。那就是：放下吧。
04:24
Now, since 2014, I will tell you I haveremarried a very handsome man named Matthew, we have four children in ourblended family, we live in the suburbs of Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA. We havea rescue dog.
那么，从2014年直至现在，我已经和一个叫马修的帅哥再婚了，我们一起养育来自不同家庭的四个小孩并一起住在美国明尼苏达州的郊区- 明尼阿波里斯市，也救了一只流浪狗。
04:39
(Laughter)
（笑声）
04:40
I drive a minivan, like the kind wheredoors open and I don't even touch them.
我现在还拥有一辆小卡车，是我不需要用手就可以把车门打开的那种小卡车。
04:44
(Laughter)
（笑声）
04:45
Like, by any "mezhure," life isgood. I've also never said "mezhure," I've never once said it thatway.
就好像，以任何“尺度”来说，生活是美好的。但我不曾用那种发音说过”尺度“这个字，一次都不曾。
04:52
(Laughter)
（笑声）
04:57
I don't know where that came from.
对于这个字的出处我甚至毫无头绪。
04:59
(Laughter)
（笑声）
05:01
I've never heard anyone else say it thatway. It looks like it should be said that way, and that's why the Englishlanguage is trash, so ...
因为我从不曾听过有谁用这个发音去说过这个单词。但那单词就像是本该如此发音的一样，你们也知道，为什么英语这门语言很”垃圾“，所以...
05:07
(Laughter)
（笑声）
05:08
So impressed with anyone who, like, speaksit in addition to a language that makes sense -- good job.
所以，我很佩服有人会喜欢说这么不靠谱的语言-- 干得好。
05:14
(Laughter)
（笑声）
05:16
But by any measure ...
不过以任何衡量标准来说...
05:17
(Laughter)
（笑声）
05:19
By any measure, life is really, reallygood, but I haven't "moved on." I haven't moved on, and I hate thatphrase so much, and I understand why other people do. Because what it says isthat Aaron's life and death and love are just moments that I can leave behindme -- and that I probably should. And when I talk about Aaron, I slip so easilyinto the present tense, and I've always thought that made me weird. And then Inoticed that everybody does it. And it's not because we are in denial orbecause we're forgetful, it's because the people we love, who we've lost, arestill so present for us. So, when I say, "Oh, Aaron is ..." It'sbecause Aaron still is. And it's not in the way that he was before, which wasmuch better, and it's not in the way that churchy people try to tell me that hewould be. It's just that he's indelible, and so he is present for me.
以任何衡量标准来说，生活真的很美好，但我并未真正“放下”。我还没有真正忘记以前的伤痛，并且非常讨厌“放下”这个词汇。当然，我能够理解为什么其他人和我一样也不喜欢这个词汇。因为用忘记伤痛这个说法就好像是在说 艾伦的生命，他的死亡以及我们 之间的爱都只是一瞬间的事情，好像我下一秒就可以潇洒地 把这段关系抛诸脑后，又或许是我应该那么做。所以每次谈起他，我总是那么顺其自然地就使用了现在时语法，而我也一直认为我这个举动在外人眼中很奇怪。但我惊奇地发现身边的人大多都和我一样。可这样并不代表我们拒绝接受亲人的死亡，或者是忘了他们死亡的事实仅仅是因为我们爱的，失去的那些人对我们来说依然那么的活灵活现。每当我说起：“哦，艾伦还在干嘛干嘛”那只是因为艾伦对我来说还是存在的。并不是以他之前的方式存在——（他活着时）那比现在好太多了，他也不是像教会那些人告诉我的那样我只是，无法忘记他，就算他走了，在我的潜意识里他还是存在在我的生命中的。
06:21
Here, he's present for me in the work thatI do, in the child that we had together, in these three other children I'mraising, who never met him, who share none of his DNA, but who are only in mylife because I had Aaron and because I lost Aaron. He's present in my marriageto Matthew, because Aaron's life and love and death made me the person thatMatthew wanted to marry. So I've not moved on from Aaron, I've moved forwardwith him.
就像在这里，对于我现在的工作而言，他作为故事的主角存在着，对于我们俩的孩子，他作为一个父亲存在着，对于我养育的其他三个孩子来说他也是存在的，就算三个小孩不是他亲生的，也没有见过艾伦本人，但是正是因为艾伦的存在，他们才能够走进我的人生毕竟是我失去了艾伦之后，才有机会碰到他们。在我和马修的婚姻里他也是存在的，因为正是因为艾伦的生命，他的爱和死亡教会我的事把我塑造成一个马修想娶回家的女人所以，我其实并不是忘记艾伦死亡的伤痛后继续前进，而是在接受了他离开的事实，带着他和我们的回忆继续生活。
06:57
(Applause)
（鼓掌）
07:03
We spread Aaron's ashes in his favoriteriver in Minnesota, and when the bag was empty -- because when you're cremated,you fit into a plastic bag -- there were still ashes stuck to my fingers. And Icould have just put my hands in the water and rinsed them, but instead, Ilicked my hands clean, because I was so afraid of losing more than I hadalready lost, and I was so desperate to make sure that he would always be apart of me. But of course he would be.
我们把艾伦的骨灰撒在了他最喜欢的河里面，在明尼苏达州。当我把整个袋子的骨灰都倒进河里面之后，因为尸体火葬之后，他们会把骨灰装进一个袋子里面，我的手指其实还沾附着一些剩余的骨灰。其实那时候我大可直接把手放进河里冲洗干净，但我没有，相反的，我用舌头把手指上的骨灰舔干净，因为失去他之后，我已经不能承受再失去任何有关他的东西，我是那么渴望地想要确认他永远会是我生命中的一部分但现在想想，他早就是了。
07:35
Because when you watch your person fillhimself with poison for three years, just so he can stay alive a little bitlonger with you, that stays with you. When you watch him fade from the healthyperson he was the night you met to nothing, that stays with you. When you watchyour son, who isn't even two years old yet, walk up to his father's bed on thelast day of his life, like he knows what's coming in a few hours, and say,"I love you. All done. Bye, bye." That stays with you. Just like whenyou fall in love, finally, like really fall in love with someone who gets youand sees you and you even see, "Oh, my God, I've been wrong this entiretime. Love is not a contest or a reality show -- it's so quiet, it's thisinvisible thread of calm that connects the two of us even when everything ischaos, when things are falling apart, even when he's gone." That stayswith you. We used to do this thing -- because my hands are always freezing andhe's so warm, where I would take my ice-cold hands and shove them up his shirt... press them against his hot bod.
当你看到你的爱人三年内不断地尝试各种药物，只为了让他的身体能够再撑久一点，再活久一点，然后尽可能用仅剩的时间和你待在一起。当你亲眼见证他渐渐从你最初认识的那个健康的男人变得虚弱，从活力满满到日渐枯萎，但依旧和你在一起。当你看着你根本不到两岁的儿子，在他父亲临死前走到他的床前，就像是他早已明白接下来的几个小时内即将发生的事情对他爸爸说：“我爱你，就这样，再见。”那些画面将是永远烙印在你脑海里的记忆，伴你终身。那一刻，就好像是你终于，真正地爱上了一个能够理解你并理解你的人。到了这时你才发现，“天啊，我一直以来都错了。”爱情并不像一场比赛或者真人秀那么轰轰烈烈——它是安静的，爱情就像一条平静的，看不见的绳子，紧紧地连接我们两人。就算世界纷杂，就算很多事情都崩溃瓦解，就算在他死去以后，那份爱，依然跟着你。我和艾伦相处时有一个小习惯由于我的手是冰的，而他的手总是热的，所以我习惯把我冰冷的手硬塞进他的衣服里，然后紧紧把我的手按在他温热的身体上。
08:49
(Laughter)
（笑声）
08:52
And he hated it so much,
坦白说，他很反感我这种行为，
08:54
(Laughter)
（笑声）
08:55
but he loved me, and after he died, I laidin bed with Aaron and I put my hands underneath him and I felt his warmth. AndI can't even tell you if my hands were cold, but I can tell you that I knew it wasthe last time I would ever do that. And that that memory is always going to besad. That memory will always hurt. Even when I'm 600 years old and I'm just ahologram.
但是他爱我啊，在艾伦死去之后，我和他躺在同一张床上 并把我的手放在他身下 那一刻，我感受到他身体的余温 那时候，我根本分不清楚 我的手到底是不是冰冷的，不过我可以告诉你 我清楚地知道那将是我最后 一次能够做出那个动作。而从那天起，这份记忆 便注定是悲伤的。它一直都会。就算到我有天活到了600岁，变成一幅全息图的时候，还是会难过。
09:29
(Laughter)
（笑声）
09:32
Just like the memory of meeting him isalways going to make me laugh. Grief doesn't happen in this vacuum, it happensalongside of and mixed in with all of these other emotions.
就像与他相识的那些回忆，想起来时总会令我开心地笑。而悲伤不是因为他离开后生活中留下了空白才发生的，它是掺杂在各种混合的情绪里同时发生的。
09:50
So, I met Matthew, my current husband --who doesn't love that title,
现在，我遇见了现任丈夫，马修，虽然他并不喜欢现任的这个称号
09:57
(Laughter)
（笑声）
10:01
but it's so accurate.
不过这就是事实啊！
10:02
(Laughter)
（笑声）
10:06
I met Matthew, and ... there was thisaudible sigh of relief among the people who love me, like, "It's over! Shedid it. She got a happy ending, we can all go home. And we did good." Andthat narrative is so appealing even to me, and I thought maybe I had gottenthat, too, but I didn't. I got another chapter. And it's such a good chapter --I love you, honey -- it's such a good chapter. But especially at the beginning,it was like an alternate universe, or one of those old "choose your ownadventure" books from the '80s where there are two parallel plot lines. SoI opened my heart to Matthew, and my brain was like, "Would you like tothink about Aaron? Like, the past, the present, future, just get inthere," and I did. And all of a sudden, those two plots were unfurling atonce, and falling in love with Matthew really helped me realize the enormity ofwhat I lost when Aaron died. And just as importantly, it helped me realize thatmy love for Aaron and my grief for Aaron, and my love for Matthew, are notopposing forces. They are just strands to the same thread. They're the samestuff.
在我遇见马修之后... 都可以听见周围那些爱我，关心我的人宽慰地松了口气像是在说：“哇，这一切终于过去了！她成功走出阴影了！也有了一个幸福的结局，我们也可以放心了。而且我们这个任务完成得挺好。” 他们内心的旁白对我 而言是极具感染力的，而我也以为自己真的得到了 一个幸福完美的结局，但我没有 我得到的其实是一个新的篇章。这还是一个特别好的篇章—— 我爱你，亲爱的（篇章） 这是个特别好的，新开始。不过尤其是一开始时，我感觉像是 在面对两个不断交替的世界，或像那种80年代的书里面“选择你自己的人生”的那种情节就像两段感情都是平行的故事线。所以当我对马修敞开心扉时，我的大脑会出现另外一个声音：“你会不会想起艾伦？”就像过去现在未来同时混合在一起 ，而我也的确还会想起他 突然间，这两条故事线 就同时在我眼前展开，爱上马修的同时我豁然开朗，原来我因为艾伦的死亡而失去的那些东西 对我来说有多重要。同等来说，这段感情也帮助我 意识到自己对艾伦的爱 以及他离世带给我的悲痛，但我对马修的爱和 对艾伦的爱不是对立的。而是同一条线上的分叉。所以他们本质上是一样的。
11:30
I'm ... what would my parents say? I'm notspecial.
我是那种……我父母都怎么形容我呢？ 我一点都不特别。
11:36
(Laughter)
（笑声）
11:37
They had four kids, they were like ...frankly.
因为他们有四个小孩，老实说...
11:39
(Laughter)
（笑声）
11:41
But I'm not, I'm not special. I know that,I'm fully aware that all day, every day, all around the world, terrible thingsare happening. All the time. Like I said, fun person. But terrible things arehappening, people are experiencing deeply formative and traumatic losses everyday. And as part of my job, this weird podcast that I have, I sometimes talk topeople about the worst thing that's ever happened to them. And sometimes,that's the loss of someone they love, sometimes days ago or weeks ago, yearsago, even decades ago. And these people that I interview, they haven't closedthemselves around this loss and made it the center of their lives. They'velived, their worlds have kept spinning. But they're talking to me, a totalstranger, about the person they love who has died, because these are theexperiences that mark us and make us just as much as the joyful ones. And justas permanently. Long after you get your last sympathy card or your last hotdish. Like, we don't look at the people around us experiencing life's joys andwonders and tell them to "move on," do we? We don't send a cardthat's like, "Congratulations on your beautiful baby," and then, fiveyears later, think like, "Another birthday party? Get over it."
但是我不特别，一点都不。这件事我自己知道，我也清楚在世界各地，每一天都会有可怕的事情发生。无时无刻。就像我说，人是有趣的。不过总会有糟心事在不断地发生，每一天都有人在经历着对他们痛苦而影响重大的失去。于是作为我工作中的一部分，在我主持的那个奇怪播客上，我有时候会和人们谈谈在他们身上发生过的，最糟心的事情。有时候他们告诉我，那是几天前，几个星期前，几年前，甚至是几十年前失去一些所爱的人的经历。但是我采访过的那些人，他们并没有身陷在失去爱人的阴影里走不出来，也没有围绕着这些负面情绪走不出去。他们依然过自己该过的日子，他们的世界不停转动，不过他们居然会对我，一个陌生人敞开心扉，谈论他们失去的那些所爱之人，因为这些都是经历啊，就像那些快乐的经历一样，在我们身上留下塑造我们的痕迹，并且同样永久。就算是在你拿到你最后的吊唁信或是最后一道热菜之后那些痕迹依旧将永久地跟着你。就像我们不会趁着自己身边的人在享受生活的快乐和奇迹的时候告诉他们放下一切，不是吗？我们不会在送了一张恭贺别人喜获贵子的贺卡之后，还会想着要在五年后去帮他孩子庆祝生日。
13:08
(Laughter)
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13:09
Yeah, we get it, he's five.
对，我们知道他五岁了，所以呢？
13:11
(Laughter)
（笑声）
13:12
Wow.
哇。
13:14
(Laughter)
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13:16
But grief is kind of one of those things,like, falling in love or having a baby or watching "The Wire" on HBO,where you don't get it until you get it, until you do it. And once you do it,once it's your love or your baby, once it's your grief and your front row atthe funeral, you get it. You understand what you're experiencing is not amoment in time, it's not a bone that will reset, but that you've been touchedby something chronic. Something incurable. It's not fatal, but sometimes grieffeels like it could be. And if we can't prevent it in one another, what can wedo?
不过悲痛和这些情绪都有一些相似，像爱上了某个人，生了孩子，或者在HBO电视台看了”THE WIRE“，你在去做某些事或得到某些东西之前，永远都不能够理解那种感受。但只要你放手去做了，只要那是你的爱人或孩子，只要是你的悲痛，或者去世的是你的亲人时，你就会明白了。你会明白你正在经历的不是一朝一夕的事情，也不是一个可以被扭转的事情。而是你真的被厄运的大手触碰了一下而这些厄运，是无药可救的。虽然悲痛的情绪让我们以为自己难受得快要死掉，但这种情绪并不致命。如果每个人面临的悲痛都是无法避免的，那我们还能做什么去缓解？
14:03
What can we do other than try to remind oneanother that some things can't be fixed, and not all wounds are meant to heal?We need each other to remember, to help each other remember, that grief is thismultitasking emotion. That you can and will be sad, and happy; you'll begrieving, and able to love in the same year or week, the same breath. We needto remember that a grieving person is going to laugh again and smile again. Ifthey're lucky, they'll even find love again. But yes, absolutely, they're goingto move forward. But that doesn't mean that they've moved on.
除了尝试去提醒别人，有些事情发生了就无法再重来，也不是每个伤口都需要愈合，我们还能做什么？大家都需要谨记，也要帮助他人谨记，其实悲痛是一个多重情绪。你在经历悲痛的同一年里，你肯定会难过，但最终还是会开心；你会痛苦，然后拥有爱人的能力，在同一年，同一周，甚至同一个瞬间。我们只需记得，一个悲伤过的人最终还是会继续展开笑颜。如果足够幸运，他们甚至可以再次遇见爱情。是的，他们终究会继续向前走。但那不代表他们放下了一切。
14:53
Thank you.
谢谢。
14:54
(Applause)
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